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Post by dont17 on Oct 26, 2018 6:24:39 GMT -5
The town will not be able to regulate the boat launch, it will remain free, just as the boat launch at Innsifil Beach is, non-residence will just need to pay for parking as is the case now in Gilford, but in Gilford there is still the streets as a free alternative.
But to be honest, I am confused as to why people are complaining, the lake is not just for ice fishing, it is enjoyed by many people all year, and improving one road end so residence and non-residence can enjoy a picnic on Gilford Rd end and improving the the boat launch by installing a public dock so boaters can have an improved spot to launch also to add it is much better for snowmobiles, pulling sleds and driving into the lake when the ice is thick enough, and the road ends are only about 200 meters away.
So for everyone that is complaining you should think the glass is half full and not half empty, because this is a large improvement for everyone. And to add, as a resident the parking is annoying on weekends, how would you like it if I and 300 other cars parked in front of your home all day every weekend in the winter, especially when there is a nice parking lot that is usually empty, everyone in the forum would be annoyed with that is it was your street, and if you say otherwise your blowing hot air.
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Post by peter on Oct 26, 2018 6:47:06 GMT -5
I had a house up on Gilford road cars were parked in front of my house all day long everyday in the winter time I thought it was great in fact I made a couple bucks from people parking in my driveway ,
Seems that the town did a half ass job by not Paving the launch and only putting a dock in .
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Post by chachi1984 on Oct 26, 2018 7:10:32 GMT -5
I remember those days Pete ,
All the new homes that went up didn’t help the parking either
As for the dock at 89 that will help a lot . But unless they improve the launch anyone with a truck is still out of luck ,
If you own a van your still screwed , the water level is so low
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Post by peter on Oct 26, 2018 7:52:07 GMT -5
Anyone know what side the lake the dock is on is around the North side or the South Side the end of Shore Acres Drive?
If it's on the Southside I feel sorry for you guys based on the house that's right there they gave me grief for the 20 years that I've been living in Innisfil, they feel an entitlement to the water in front of them .
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Post by Donny on Oct 26, 2018 9:13:49 GMT -5
Anyone know what side the lake the dock is on is around the North side or the South Side the end of Shore Acres Drive? If it's on the Southside I feel sorry for you guys based on the house that's right there they gave me grief for the 20 years that I've been living in Innisfil, they feel an entitlement to the water in front of them . North side. |
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Post by Ian on Oct 26, 2018 9:29:55 GMT -5
Municipal governments have no idea what they are doing. They listen to the grumpy chatterboxes, and change things to please one or two of them, without thinking of the future effects. Listen to an 85yr old man lets say, about noise complaints over the years and they change the area to please that person, a year later they pass away, and you are stuck with the changes made to please that person. It is supposed to be a community that promotes the lake for recreation, to bring in the tourists and out of towners, to keep the money flowing and the local taxes to the residence down.
The way Innisfil is building houses with the concept of "Living by the lake", yeah live by the lake but, we don't want you to get to it. When the east side blocked up access to the Government-owned wier at Roches Point to put in a parkette for the locals, was a bit strange, after all, they have huge parcels of land.
Remember the days of the Great Lake Simcoe Ice Fishing tournament, you couldn't get parked due to the Americans who used to flock to the lake every season. When the perch limit was set, they stopped coming in masses. The money that came in every year around the lake from ice fisherman, from bait, breakfasts & brunches, disappeared putting a huge dent into the local economy.
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Post by dont17 on Oct 26, 2018 10:17:44 GMT -5
Economy is important yes, but to what extent. I bet the environmental impact by all those people flocking to the lake was much worse then any economical gain to the local town.
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Post by peter on Oct 26, 2018 22:59:13 GMT -5
Couple things wroung with what the town did , why replace sand with grass ? It's a beach , also this Gilford Rd end not so bad , what will happen is the snow will pile up were the new posts are , then you can just ride over the snow bank , this is even fk up for the snow plow driver . no were to push the snow out of the way , it will be good for us .
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Post by sonofaperch on Oct 27, 2018 15:09:04 GMT -5
Who used to launch his rental boat at the end of Gilford road illegally, Peter ?
Who used to take his dog within 50 feet of the water's edge illegally, Peter ?
Who used to park at the end of Gilford road illegally, Peter ?
Who doesn't live in Gilford anymore, Peter ?
Who's to blame for what they've done at the end of Gilford road, Peter ?
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Post by peter on Oct 27, 2018 15:37:41 GMT -5
I'd like to take the credit but I'm not that greedy the credit goes out to the pump man putting the town of Innisfil in a libel position by creating difficulties for the ice fisherman accessing the ice the end of Gilford Rd .the town doesn't want you using the end of Gilford Rd simply because the liability they would fase because of the neglagentsts of a local water front home owner .
I'll take credit for my boat and my dog I'll admit parking at the end of the road , you happy now ?
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Post by sledhead on Oct 28, 2018 9:05:14 GMT -5
people lets face it, the so called parkette was put in place to impede vehicular traffic access to the lake, full stop. who is going to picnic on a narrow strip of grass between two houses and either park free 500 yds away or pay $35? all other arguements aside, lets call a spade a spade.
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Post by Donny on Oct 28, 2018 12:23:19 GMT -5
people lets face it, the so called parkette was put in place to impede vehicular traffic access to the lake, full stop. who is going to picnic on a narrow strip of grass between two houses and either park free 500 yds away or pay $35? all other arguements aside, lets call a spade a spade. If strictly impeding vehicular traffic was the town's intent, I wish they would have saved our tax dollars and just used a gate. The area isn't just used in the winter. People do park for free 500yds away or pay for parking and use the Gilford Rd beach. Just about anytime we are by there on hot summer days, there is someone enjoying the beach and water. Why allow vehicles to tear up this newly created green space? |
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Post by Donny on Oct 28, 2018 18:18:49 GMT -5
A couple daylight shots tonight. Those that are familiar with the road access, will be able to tell the changes from the picks. I wish I had a tape with me, it looks like an ATV might fit between the posts at the entrance. The grassy area has been raised with great ditches added to both sides. No more sloppy access. The trees and picnic table concrete pads can also be seen. The beach (yup this is a public access beach as well), has been enlarged and a fresh load of sand added. Just figured it's best for people to see the area.        |
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Post by Donny on Oct 28, 2018 18:24:18 GMT -5
A few shots of the launch. Doesn't look like any aggregate has been added. I did drive my truck out until I had water at the doors though, in 2WD and had no issues. I've launched here many times with a smaller 2wd truck with no issue. If anyone is getting stuck, perhaps better launching practices should be implemented, or reconsider your choice in a tow vehicle. Give us a ring if you do get stuck though. We are always itching to use our winches. 😃    |
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Post by webdogg on Oct 29, 2018 8:15:49 GMT -5
I have a couple legit questions. If responding please talk to me like I’m 5 as I seriously don’t know anything about the history etc...
For context I drive up from near Woodstock area with my wife 1-2 times per year and have done so for many years. I follow the forum just to keep up but this topic is insanely confusing with all the insider banter.
About me - I’m a kinda retired 45 yr old and my wife doesn’t fish she just cooks, controls the heater and sings fishing songs in Korean intended to increase my luck when it’s slow. I usually bring my truck with a 23’ enclosed trailer as I usually bring 2 sleds and sometimes a quad however I almost always walk out regardless. I usually want to be there for 6am, setup in the 2 man sled hut by 7am and I’m super quiet when I go out at that time (hence no quad or sled). If I do take the quad it because of the weather and I usually have grab some breakfast first and push my timeline back 1-2 hours so I’m not unloading stuff in the dark. I’m also super environmentally responsible so you can’t even tell we were on the ice. (Actually my wife is the responsible one so I am by association/requirement)
1. By the looks of those posts, I am guessing they are to stop cars not ATVs or sleds. When they want to stop motorized traffic they usually put in a “switchback” type turn that doesn’t affect walkers at all but prevents motorized traffic.
2. I don’t like to cause problems so I’m fine going elsewhere so where else can I go? Again, talk to me like I’m 5 as I have no idea where “turn right at Jim’s house and walk down by the old general store and you’ll see where the dock was in 1950” is at. Stick to legit road or street names or give me some coordinates.
3. Based on what I wrote, is there anything I’m doing that contributes to the problem such as parking a big trailer or walking around at 6am? Feel free to be honest as I only fish for fun so you won’t hurt my feelings. If you think I should go elsewhere to help the cause just tell me.
Thanks in advance for response. I do realize this is in the soft water section but it seems to be very ice related thread.
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Post by Donny on Oct 29, 2018 12:02:28 GMT -5
I have a couple legit questions. If responding please talk to me like I’m 5 as I seriously don’t know anything about the history etc... For context I drive up from near Woodstock area with my wife 1-2 times per year and have done so for many years. I follow the forum just to keep up but this topic is insanely confusing with all the insider banter. About me - I’m a kinda retired 45 yr old and my wife doesn’t fish she just cooks, controls the heater and sings fishing songs in Korean intended to increase my luck when it’s slow. I usually bring my truck with a 23’ enclosed trailer as I usually bring 2 sleds and sometimes a quad however I almost always walk out regardless. I usually want to be there for 6am, setup in the 2 man sled hut by 7am and I’m super quiet when I go out at that time (hence no quad or sled). If I do take the quad it because of the weather and I usually have grab some breakfast first and push my timeline back 1-2 hours so I’m not unloading stuff in the dark. I’m also super environmentally responsible so you can’t even tell we were on the ice. (Actually my wife is the responsible one so I am by association/requirement) 1. By the looks of those posts, I am guessing they are to stop cars not ATVs or sleds. When they want to stop motorized traffic they usually put in a “switchback” type turn that doesn’t affect walkers at all but prevents motorized traffic. 2. I don’t like to cause problems so I’m fine going elsewhere so where else can I go? Again, talk to me like I’m 5 as I have no idea where “turn right at Jim’s house and walk down by the old general store and you’ll see where the dock was in 1950” is at. Stick to legit road or street names or give me some coordinates. 3. Based on what I wrote, is there anything I’m doing that contributes to the problem such as parking a big trailer or walking around at 6am? Feel free to be honest as I only fish for fun so you won’t hurt my feelings. If you think I should go elsewhere to help the cause just tell me. Thanks in advance for response. I do realize this is in the soft water section but it seems to be very ice related thread. Sounds like you're a model fisherman Webdog. Your practices sound great to us 👍 |
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Post by crappie on Oct 29, 2018 13:57:50 GMT -5
A couple daylight shots tonight. Those that are familiar with the road access, will be able to tell the changes from the picks. I wish I had a tape with me, it looks like an ATV might fit between the posts at the entrance. The grassy area has been raised with great ditches added to both sides. No more sloppy access. The trees and picnic table concrete pads can also be seen. The beach (yup this is a public access beach as well), has been enlarged and a fresh load of sand added. Just figured it's best for people to see the area. is the photo that shown are right beside the fountain man place? Thanks! |
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Post by Donny on Oct 29, 2018 14:17:38 GMT -5
A couple daylight shots tonight. Those that are familiar with the road access, will be able to tell the changes from the picks. I wish I had a tape with me, it looks like an ATV might fit between the posts at the entrance. The grassy area has been raised with great ditches added to both sides. No more sloppy access. The trees and picnic table concrete pads can also be seen. The beach (yup this is a public access beach as well), has been enlarged and a fresh load of sand added. Just figured it's best for people to see the area. is the photo that shown are right beside the fountain man place? Thanks! The photos show the end of Gilford Rd. I don't believe you can see the house that puts the fountain out in these pics. That house is a few North of the lake access. |
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Post by Andre on Oct 30, 2018 5:53:45 GMT -5
Not that I would or have used it but I've been going to the end of Gilford Road and other access points on the lake for years. In spring summer and fall, there's always at least one or more people sitting and relaxing at the end of the road. I won't say it's packed but definitely a hundred percent of the time used.Personally I think there's nothing wrong with tightening up a place,beautifying it. Looks good to me. Looks like if they wanted to stop ice fisherman they would make it narrower to stop winter machines. To me that doesn't look like what they had in mind.
If you ask me and showed a hundred people before and after pictures I'll put my money that people would pick the after and I would think that's what everybody would want for Gilford Road is an improvement and an improvement would be based on people's perceptions no matter what any individual thinks.
For sure in any situation not everyone will be made Happy but all should be happy if the masses are impressed and I would bet that would be the case.
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Post by chachi1984 on Nov 1, 2018 7:32:04 GMT -5
looks like you can still get a snowmobile or atv through the poles. This won't effect many people on this board. We should be happy, this will keep blue and yellow huts off the access and save the ice.
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